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		<title>By: autoomob</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-31340</link>
		<dc:creator>autoomob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Просто прекрастно написано</description>
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		<title>By: Доната</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-30995</link>
		<dc:creator>Доната</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Чётко подмечено!</description>
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		<title>By: ToorwayPrarcef</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-30739</link>
		<dc:creator>ToorwayPrarcef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I consult down? Of course, Miko.</description>
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		<title>By: Lord Kitchener's Own</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-10338</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Kitchener's Own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, one more clarification.

On the tiny chance that the Israelis really did waste a bunch of bombs hitting nothing but sand in the middle of the desert, either just for training or for &quot;intimidation&quot;, then yes, THAT I would have a problem with (more with the training than the intimidation, but pretty equally with both).  So if the Syrians could put forward credible evidence that nothing was hit, I&#039;d join the indignation.

As I&#039;ve said though, I happen to belive that the Israelis did indeed hit something out there in the desert, so I doubt the Syrians will ever attempt to provide concrete &quot;proof&quot; that there was nothing there (as that would force the Israelis&#039; hands, and they surely have video of the bombing that can prove they blew the Hell out of something).  I think the Syrians are quite happy with Israel&#039;s silence, and we&#039;ll see them make a bit of noise, and act all indignant, and then mysteriously hush up, lest the Israelis do what you recommend and start talking publicly about what they know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, one more clarification.</p>
<p>On the tiny chance that the Israelis really did waste a bunch of bombs hitting nothing but sand in the middle of the desert, either just for training or for &#8220;intimidation&#8221;, then yes, THAT I would have a problem with (more with the training than the intimidation, but pretty equally with both).  So if the Syrians could put forward credible evidence that nothing was hit, I&#8217;d join the indignation.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said though, I happen to belive that the Israelis did indeed hit something out there in the desert, so I doubt the Syrians will ever attempt to provide concrete &#8220;proof&#8221; that there was nothing there (as that would force the Israelis&#8217; hands, and they surely have video of the bombing that can prove they blew the Hell out of something).  I think the Syrians are quite happy with Israel&#8217;s silence, and we&#8217;ll see them make a bit of noise, and act all indignant, and then mysteriously hush up, lest the Israelis do what you recommend and start talking publicly about what they know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Kitchener's Own</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-10337</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Kitchener's Own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should further clarify, given my thoughts on how insane attacking Iran would be, the seeming contradiction.

I&#039;m not philosophically opposed to bombing a country&#039;s secret illegal nuclear facilities.  I&#039;m CERTAINLY not opposed to Israel bombing the secret illegal nuclear facilities of neighbouring countries whom I&#039;m not certain would be deterred from nuking Israel by the potential of Israeli retaliation (I&#039;m not at all convinced that some Iranian leaders wouldn&#039;t be quite pleased to martyr themselves by nuking Israel off the map, if they had the opportunity, consequences be damned).  I am opposed to ineffectual bombing of a country&#039;s secret illegal nuclear facilities (or, hypothetically, the &lt;i&gt;effective&lt;/i&gt; bombing of a country&#039;s secret illegal nuclear facilitites that causes significant harm to said country&#039;s civilian population).  Especially if that country has the conventional forces to make things get really nasty, really fast! (as in the Iranian case).

Cases like the recent activity in Syria, or the &#039;81 bombing of the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq really don&#039;t bother me much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should further clarify, given my thoughts on how insane attacking Iran would be, the seeming contradiction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not philosophically opposed to bombing a country&#8217;s secret illegal nuclear facilities.  I&#8217;m CERTAINLY not opposed to Israel bombing the secret illegal nuclear facilities of neighbouring countries whom I&#8217;m not certain would be deterred from nuking Israel by the potential of Israeli retaliation (I&#8217;m not at all convinced that some Iranian leaders wouldn&#8217;t be quite pleased to martyr themselves by nuking Israel off the map, if they had the opportunity, consequences be damned).  I am opposed to ineffectual bombing of a country&#8217;s secret illegal nuclear facilities (or, hypothetically, the <i>effective</i> bombing of a country&#8217;s secret illegal nuclear facilitites that causes significant harm to said country&#8217;s civilian population).  Especially if that country has the conventional forces to make things get really nasty, really fast! (as in the Iranian case).</p>
<p>Cases like the recent activity in Syria, or the &#8216;81 bombing of the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq really don&#8217;t bother me much.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Kitchener's Own</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-10333</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Kitchener's Own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I&#039;m just willing to take the Israelis at their word (they&#039;re &quot;anonymous sources&quot; word, it&#039;s true, but again, I don&#039;t expect them to lay out the intelligence they have on their adversaries for all the world to see) that they have intelligence that the North Koreans were transfering nuclear technology to Syria, and they felt compelled to act; and you&#039;re not convinced.  Now, if I wasn&#039;t convinced by the Israelis, I&#039;d be convinced by the Syrians laughable story that the Israeli air force just bombed a whole lot of nothing, in the middle of the desert.  Again, you&#039;re not convinced and fair enough I suppose.

Israel is surrounded by countries where public opinion polls show that the majoprity of people still do not believe that Israel has the right to exist.  If the Israelis conduct bombing raids that kill or even just endanger civilian populations, I&#039;ll get up the gumption to be upset and demand answers.  As long as the Syrians are claiming they hit nothing but sand (which to me, SCREAMS &quot;They hit our secret illegal nuclear facility&quot;) then as far as I&#039;m concerned, bombs away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I&#8217;m just willing to take the Israelis at their word (they&#8217;re &#8220;anonymous sources&#8221; word, it&#8217;s true, but again, I don&#8217;t expect them to lay out the intelligence they have on their adversaries for all the world to see) that they have intelligence that the North Koreans were transfering nuclear technology to Syria, and they felt compelled to act; and you&#8217;re not convinced.  Now, if I wasn&#8217;t convinced by the Israelis, I&#8217;d be convinced by the Syrians laughable story that the Israeli air force just bombed a whole lot of nothing, in the middle of the desert.  Again, you&#8217;re not convinced and fair enough I suppose.</p>
<p>Israel is surrounded by countries where public opinion polls show that the majoprity of people still do not believe that Israel has the right to exist.  If the Israelis conduct bombing raids that kill or even just endanger civilian populations, I&#8217;ll get up the gumption to be upset and demand answers.  As long as the Syrians are claiming they hit nothing but sand (which to me, SCREAMS &#8220;They hit our secret illegal nuclear facility&#8221;) then as far as I&#8217;m concerned, bombs away.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Kitch, where&#039;s all this info that Syria has a nuclear arsenal or is developing one?

This isn&#039;t about The Bomb it&#039;s about Israel intimidating Syria as it intimidates Palestine and Lebanon and it&#039;s so far unsuccessful attempts to get at Iran. 

The only thing that is threatening Israel is world opinion and the peace process. If it succeeds, the Israelis get screwed out of the West Bank and its water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Kitch, where&#8217;s all this info that Syria has a nuclear arsenal or is developing one?</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about The Bomb it&#8217;s about Israel intimidating Syria as it intimidates Palestine and Lebanon and it&#8217;s so far unsuccessful attempts to get at Iran. </p>
<p>The only thing that is threatening Israel is world opinion and the peace process. If it succeeds, the Israelis get screwed out of the West Bank and its water.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Kitchener's Own</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-10328</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Kitchener's Own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to &quot;Why bother with a parliament, a congress and knesset?&quot; I&#039;m not sure anyone&#039;s claiming the Knesset wasn&#039;t informed (or for that matter the Aremd Services or Intelligence Committees of the U.S. Congress, assuming we accept that the Americans knew what the Israelis were going to do).  Just because the Prime Minister won&#039;t go into detail on CNN for all the world to hear doesn&#039;t mean the Knesset didn&#039;t know what was happening.

Given the Syrian response, I&#039;m quite sure the Knesset (or at least those who needed to know within the Knesset) knew EXACTLY what the plan was, and signed off happily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to &#8220;Why bother with a parliament, a congress and knesset?&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure anyone&#8217;s claiming the Knesset wasn&#8217;t informed (or for that matter the Aremd Services or Intelligence Committees of the U.S. Congress, assuming we accept that the Americans knew what the Israelis were going to do).  Just because the Prime Minister won&#8217;t go into detail on CNN for all the world to hear doesn&#8217;t mean the Knesset didn&#8217;t know what was happening.</p>
<p>Given the Syrian response, I&#8217;m quite sure the Knesset (or at least those who needed to know within the Knesset) knew EXACTLY what the plan was, and signed off happily.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Kitchener's Own</title>
		<link>http://carsonspost.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/israel-us-bomb-syria-with-no-comment/#comment-10327</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Kitchener's Own</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Chad was right next door to Canada, had twice tried to wipe Canada off the map, and the thing we bombed was almost certainly a nuclear facility with recently imported materials from North Korea intended to threaten the very existence of Canada?  PLUS the government of Chad was claiming no one was hit, and that the Canadian Forces had bombed a whole lot of nothing in the middle of the desert?  Then yes.  I&#039;d understand my government not wanting to further embarass the government of Chad by publicly laying out all they knew about the secret illegal nuclear facility we just destroyed.  More importantly, I&#039;d understand the importance of the Government of Chad not being able to read at CNN.com a thorough accounting of all of the intelligence that the Canadian government had on their secret nuclear program designed to threaten my very existence.

I&#039;d be pretty OK with all of that.  

It&#039;s not often that a government has to keep information from their citizens in order to keep their citizens safe, but I&#039;m hard pressed to accept that the secret bombing of an adversarial neighbour&#039;s secret nuclear facilities in the middle of an unpopulated desert isn&#039;t one of those times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Chad was right next door to Canada, had twice tried to wipe Canada off the map, and the thing we bombed was almost certainly a nuclear facility with recently imported materials from North Korea intended to threaten the very existence of Canada?  PLUS the government of Chad was claiming no one was hit, and that the Canadian Forces had bombed a whole lot of nothing in the middle of the desert?  Then yes.  I&#8217;d understand my government not wanting to further embarass the government of Chad by publicly laying out all they knew about the secret illegal nuclear facility we just destroyed.  More importantly, I&#8217;d understand the importance of the Government of Chad not being able to read at CNN.com a thorough accounting of all of the intelligence that the Canadian government had on their secret nuclear program designed to threaten my very existence.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be pretty OK with all of that.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not often that a government has to keep information from their citizens in order to keep their citizens safe, but I&#8217;m hard pressed to accept that the secret bombing of an adversarial neighbour&#8217;s secret nuclear facilities in the middle of an unpopulated desert isn&#8217;t one of those times!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if Canada dropped bombs on say, Chad, and our PM said, &quot;No comment&quot; you&#039;d be fine with that. Wow.

If you&#039;re an American and your President said, &quot;No comment&quot; to a collusion to bombing Syria, you&#039;d be OK with that.

You&#039;re an Israeli and your government bombs Syria with a &quot;No comment&quot; and you&#039;re OK with that.

Why bother with a parliament, a congress and knesset? They don&#039;t matter, just bomb the bastards with no comment.

Not in my democracy.

As for the Israel airforce being the &quot;most battle-hardened air forces on the planet&quot; battle-hardened by whom? They bomb with impunity and without opposition, as the Syrian mission proved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if Canada dropped bombs on say, Chad, and our PM said, &#8220;No comment&#8221; you&#8217;d be fine with that. Wow.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re an American and your President said, &#8220;No comment&#8221; to a collusion to bombing Syria, you&#8217;d be OK with that.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an Israeli and your government bombs Syria with a &#8220;No comment&#8221; and you&#8217;re OK with that.</p>
<p>Why bother with a parliament, a congress and knesset? They don&#8217;t matter, just bomb the bastards with no comment.</p>
<p>Not in my democracy.</p>
<p>As for the Israel airforce being the &#8220;most battle-hardened air forces on the planet&#8221; battle-hardened by whom? They bomb with impunity and without opposition, as the Syrian mission proved.</p>
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